This is part seven of our series, "White People Talking to White People About Racism," a reading of Reparations: A Christian Call for Repentance & Repair by Duke Kwon and Greg Thompson. In this episode the Rev Julie Van Til helps Josh unpack chapter three.
Julie Van Til is a spiritual director and the pastor of Floosmore Community Church in Flossmore Illinois near Chicago. She is originally from the West Michigan area and was the one guest the Rev Dr Denise Kingdom Grier especially hoped would contribute to this conversation on racial justice. At the beginning of the conversation Julie and Josh discuss how the posture of a spiritual director influences her ministry as a lead pastor. They then consider the several ways that white supremacy is theft of power and culture and how racism is rooted in a troubled theology of creation. Julie and Josh conclude with reflections on the body and how anger about racism is not only acceptable, it is necessary for our healing.